Show notes (for both Part 1 and Part 2):

• Our sponsor for today's episode: Etsy shop Green and Experience: Natural and Reusable Vegan and Cruelty Free Hemp Dryer Balls - get 10% off your purchase by using promo code: BROWNBLE10
• On grief and grieving (part 1) with clinical psychologist Verena Kacinskis
• Verena Kacinskis' website: verenakacinskis.com
• Verena Kacinskis' instagram: @verenakacinskis
• Interview episode: Clinical Psychologist Verena Kacinskis on The Wounds Behind Perfectionism
• The 5 stages of grief and the Elizabeth Kübler-Ross Foundation
• David Kessler and Brené Brown on Grief and Finding Meaning in her Podcast Unlocking Us
• Book: The Year of Magical Thinking by Joan Didion
• Book: On Grief and Grieving by Elizabeth Kübler-Ross and David Kessler
• Book: Wild: From Lost to Found on the Pacific Crest Trail by Cheryl Strayed
• Book: Grief is the Thing with Feathers by Max Porter
• Book: Crying in H Mart by Michelle Zauner
• Book: When Breath Becomes Air by Paul Kalanithi
• Book: The Light Between Us by Laura Lynne Jackson
• Book: Signs: The Secret Language of the Universe by Laura Lynne Jackson
• Book: With the End in Mind by Kathryn Mannix
• A list of further reading on specific types of grief by Choosing Therapy
• Podcast: Griefcast
• Podcast: Griefcast with Isabel Allende
• Podcast: Dear Sugars 
  
  

Welcome everyone, to part 2 of this two part episode on grief and the process of grieving with special guest clinical psychologist and researcher Verena Kacinskis, my dear friend, and who to this day has some of the most downloaded episodes in our podcast’s history.

If you haven’t already, I highly recommend listening to last week’s episode which was part 1 on grief and grieving, because Verena explains so much about the stages of grief and we both share some of the things that have helped us when we’ve been grieving, as well as some of the foundations of what grief means, what it feels like, and the importance of letting yourself sit in that place rather than resisting or denying it.

In today's episode, part 2, we talk about:

• Other forms of grief and grieving, including:

• Grieving during a separation, divorce, or when going through a breakup.

• Grief when dealing with the empty nest or retirement.

• The loss of a friendship or estrangement from family members

• Grieving the loss of a job or career.

• The loss of any kind of dream or life path we didn’t get to go through like grieving not being pregnant or becoming a parent, of finding a long-term partner, or any dream that hasn’t come to pass.

• Grief and the process of grieving the loss of a dog or a pet.

• The gifts and invitations that come with grief.

• How to deal with the difficult moments during grief or mourning like the moment of remembering first thing in the morning, and other special times of day.

• The best books and podcasts on grief and grieving.

• How to support someone who is grieving.

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My hope is that these two episodes, and with this one, the last of season 9, you feel that there’s a hand extended to you in this moment of loss, that you feel less alone, that if you are not grieving but have someone you love who is, you can be the biggest source of support for them.

As you’ll hear in this episode, other than Carlos who has been there for me in all of my moments of loss and has been the firmest shoulder to rely on, Verena has been my other pillar and one of the biggest sources of friendship, comfort and support, not because she is a therapist, although you’ll get plenty of her professional knowledge as well, but because she is such a good person, and an incredible friend. There was no better person than her, to invite and have this conversation on grief with.

Verena Kacinskis is a clinical psychologist and researcher. For the past 13 years, she has been integrating the concepts and techniques from psychology and a healthcare system called BodyTalk, seeking to deepen and expand therapeutic results for her patients.

Currently, she has been splitting her time between seeing patients and developing content to both educate and encourage self-observation, always with the premise of sharing resources that people can use in their own internal organization processes.

You can connect with Verena through her website verenakacinskis.com  and through her instagram page @verenakacinskis. She is one of the most insightful, professional, dedicated, sensitive and wonderful people I know, I am so grateful to have her in my life and so grateful you get to meet her in today's conversation if you haven't before.